Coming into this, I was skeptical about the abduction phenomena, and skeptical of those making claims that they believed they were taken, or that they see UFOs a lot.
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However, after getting to know these people, and then actually witnessing UFOs with them, I have changed my mind.
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However, after getting to know these people, and then actually witnessing UFOs with them, I have changed my mind.
MUFON is the Mutual UFO Network.
We are the largest UFO investigative organization
in the United States.
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We were established in 1969,
and we do have investigators in several other countries.
We are the largest UFO investigative organization
in the United States.
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We were established in 1969,
and we do have investigators in several other countries.
We collect and investigate reports worldwide.
We get thousands of reports a year.
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We have over 3000 members
and around 300 MUFON
certified investigators.
We get thousands of reports a year.
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We have over 3000 members
and around 300 MUFON
certified investigators.
The NEW AMERICAN DREAM INTERVIEW
ALEJANDRO ROJAS, 35, lives in Denver, Colorado.
He is the public relations person for MUFON, the Mutual UFO Network.
I also think it is unhealthy for a democracy to have it’s citizens ignorant of vital issues.
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How can an uninformed public vote intelligently without have any information about what the issues really are.
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How can an uninformed public vote intelligently without have any information about what the issues really are.
NAD: Alejandro, hello, thank you for taking the time for this.
Where are you from? Hometown, high school, school mascot, like that.
Have you ever had a personal UFO experience?
ALEJANDRO ROJAS:
I am from Denver, Colorado.
I went to high school at Wheat Ridge High School.
We were The Farmers, not the most exciting mascot.
I didn’t have any UFO experiences until after I was an official MUFON investigator for a couple of years.
I am one of those who got into this prior to having an experience.
As for my experiences they have happened either in places where UFOs are seen often, or with people who claim to see UFOs often, all of who also claim to be abductees.
Coming into this, I was skeptical about the abduction phenomena, and skeptical of those making claims that they believed they were taken, or that they see UFOs a lot.
However, after getting to know these people, and then actually witnessing UFOs with them, I have changed my mind.
I also feel there is some substantial evidence for the reality of the abduction phenomena, and I continue to meet very interesting people who make these claims.
NAD: Are you positive that UFOs are real?
And they are not military machines we just don't know about yet? ...
What is MUFON?
ALEJANDRO ROJAS:
I am 90 percent convinced that not all UFOs are highly advanced military craft.
Notice, I didn’t say 100 percent.
I really don’t know what the military may be working on in the black world.
If the Stealth was developed in the 70’s or 80’s, and with technological advancements increasing exponentially, what we may have flying around is probably extraordinary.
Still, if they were all military, why would it seem the military is chasing them around and shooting them down?
What about the stories from credible people like Major Filer, of being coming out of these craft?
What about the craft NASA has seen since the 60’s?
The black project answers don’t seem to answer all of the questions.
MUFON is the Mutual UFO Network.
We are the largest UFO investigative organization in the United States.
We were established in 1969, and we do have investigators in several other countries.
We collect and investigate reports worldwide.
We get thousands of reports a year.
We have over 3000 members and around 300 MUFON certified investigators.
We are the go-to group on this subject.
NAD: Would you like to choose one of these to answer, elaborate on?
I don't ask this to make fun. I ask because I really seek the answers.
— Did we land on the moon in 1968?
Yes.
... What makes you think that?
ALEJANDRO ROJAS:
I believe we did land on the moon.
However, I also believe that NASA is not forthcoming with everything they have found there.
I believe we went because I know too many people who worked on making that happen.
For instance, John Schuessler, MUFON’s former director, worked on the Apollo project.
I do not believe he and his many colleagues are lying about that.
However, it was while working for NASA that John had found out that our astronauts were seeing UFOs in space.
While in Capsule communications during a Gemini mission, John over heard the astronauts reporting a sighting.
He was astonished that this information was not being disseminated to their engineers who could analyze and assess the situation.
There have also been other people who have claimed to have seen evidence of UFOs around the moon, and either ruins of, or active bases on the moon, that are not ours.
Some speculate that perhaps NASA was not the first to land on the moon.
We do know that the army was planning on building bases up there.
I do think there are mysteries on the moon, and information that has not been shared with the public.
However, I still believe that NASA did land on the moon.
NAD: Project Camelot, what about that?
People who have said they have been abducted, who claim all sorts of knowledge of UFO culture and details.
Do you believe them? Why? Why not?
ALEJANDRO ROJAS:
I am not quite sure what you mean, although I think I get the general idea.
Project Camelot was an Army social sciences project and a website with interviews on many topics, not the first place to introduce these topics or interviews.
Also, UFOs seem to be vehicles.
As for people who claim to have knowledge of Extraterrestrial cultures, who claim to be abducted, or have had contact with UFO pilots, I do believe that most likely contacts have been made.
If we have been visited by extraterrestrial beings, if these UFOs have non-terrestrial pilots, then it would make sense that perhaps some have been contacted.
Also, I do believe there is evidence of abductions.
I am a big fan of Dr. John Mack, and Dr. Leo Sprinkle.
I also find the contactee period in the 1950’s very interesting.
People like George Adamski and Howard Menger had credible witnesses with them when they saw, photographed, or filmed UFOs.
Their stories are incredible, but so is that sort of evidence. They both were also researched by very credible and capable people, and found legitimate.
When I first ran across their sort of information, I was very skeptical, but the more I knew about the research that went into their cases, I was even more astonished.
Betty and Barney Hill, Travis Walton, the Alagash Four, all of these are very credible stories of people being taken, and/or communicating with strange beings aboard UFOs.
I personally have not closed the book on all of Billy Meier’s case either.
There are special effects artist that claim they can duplicate some of those films and pictures, but none have. I have found special effects artist feel they can do anything, and these days they can do some amazing things, but a one-armed man in the 1970’s?
He also has some credible witnesses that have been with him during some of these events.
So, yes I believe there is still some information to be gained from looking into this area of the phenomena.
NAD: Do you have hope in Obama?
In that he might be interested in doing more with the UFO issue.
Why?
Why not?
If we do nothing about UFOs, so what?
What would be so bad about that?
ALEJANDRO ROJAS:
I see no indications that Obama has interests in UFOs.
He has a lot on his plate, and I would be surprised if he gives this any thought.
Hillary definitely had an interest that her and her husband pursued.
You can read more about this on www.presidentialufo.com.
However, even as President and first lady, it doesn’t seem like they had access to the information, nor did they gain much ground.
His transition manager, John Podesta also has shown an interest.
However, he also seems to not have access, and has not gained any ground.
Hopefully, Obama’s interest in having an open government will allow access to files that will help us discover more.
I think we do need to do something about UFOs.
I think we need to know if crashed UFOs have been back engineered and if technology that could get us clean energy has been developed.
That would help save the planet.
I think we need to find out more about abductions. These people need help, not ridicule.
I also think it is unhealthy for a democracy to have it’s citizens ignorant of vital issues.
How can an uninformed public vote intelligently without have any information about what the issues really are.
Our political debates seem to be mostly filled with rhetoric, rather than issue which are truly important to people.
NAD: Does your favorite coffee cup have words on it? What are they?
What did you absolutely have to get done by noon today?
How about by Christmas 2009?
ALEJANDRO ROJAS:
I like my MUFON and my Petroglyph National Monument Coffee cups.
2. I have to complete a Quiz in my Philosophy class.
3. By Christmas of this year, there is way too much to explain here, but one exciting thing is organizing the Roswell conference on behalf of MUFON with the city of Roswell, for the July 4th weekend.
Be sure to make plans on being there, it will be great!
NAD: What else would you like to add? What else should I have asked?
ALEJANDRO ROJAS:
I think you have some great questions, which should be good for now.
NAD: If you would like — please insert a link here to something you would like linked to, with a brief tag re: where that link goes:
ALEJANDRO ROJAS:
www.MUFON.com - The Mutual UFO Network’s official site. Make reports, or peruse reports in real time as they come in.
www.UFOThinkTank.com - My website. Read more about me, and check out my Audio and Video interviews with some of the greatest minds in UFO research.
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Brother Raymond, walked from Denver to D.C., for truth
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Cathleen Howard, expatriate, from Tucson to Mexico, to pursue her dreams
Sander Hicks, Brooklyn radical entrepreneur, writer, publisher
Joe Bageant, America's blue-collar author
Frida Berrigan, a lifetime of faith, hope and love
Denise Diaz, brewing up a revolution, at The Ritual Cafe in Des Moines
Deanna Taylor, Green Party activist, teacher, in Salt Lake City
Rossie Indira-Vltchek, writer, filmmaker in Jarkarta, Indonesia
Nora Barrows-Friedman, Pacifica reporter in Gaza
Delaney Bruce, Friends of Peltier
Keith McHenry, co-founder of Food Not Bombs
Michael Sprong, South Dakota Catholic Worker
Brian Terrell, Des Moines Catholic Worker
Bob Graf, One of the Milwaukee 14
Loren Coleman, Bigfoot researcher
Monty Borror, Sci-Fi artist from Virginia
David Ray, Great American Poet
Jack Blood, radio show host, in Austin, Texas
Danny Schechter, A Real Reporter
Bob Kincaid, host, Head-On Radio Show
Tony Packes, Animal Farm Radio Host, Keeping An Eye on Big Brother
Richard Flamer, Working With the Poor in Chiapas
David Ray Griffin, 9/11 Truth activist author
Barry Crimmins, U.S. comedian, author, social activist
Bret Hayworth, political reporter for the Sioux City [IA] Journal
Lisa Casey, publisher of website All Hat No Cattle
Joe & Elaine Mayer, activist couple in Rochester, Minnesota
Fr. Darrell Rupiper, U.S. priest revolutionary
Whitney Trettien, MIT student, Green Party activist
Meria Heller, radio show host
Phil Hey, professor, poet
John Crawford, book publisher
Steve Moon, Iowa Bigfoot researcher
Carol Brouillet, California social activist, 9/11 Truth
Russell Brutsche, Santa Cruz artist
Kevin Barrett, professor, radio show host, 9/11 Truth activist
A'Jamal Rashad Byndon, social activist in Omaha
Chris Rooney, Vancouver, Canada Catholic Worker, website publisher
Marc Estrin, political novelist, from the left
Peter Dale Scott, poet, professor, author, activist
Anthony Rayson, anarchist zine publisher, works with prisoners
Alice Cherbonnier, editor of The Baltimore Chronicle, an independent newspaper
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